Wil the Royals trade Myers away for starting pitching?

The Royals need another front of the rotation starter, even after acquiring Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie. With a $70MM “soft” salary cap (which many argue is too low), the Royals say they’re willing to trade top outfield prospect Wil Myers for starting pitching. Names such as Tampa Bay’s James Shields and Boston’s Jon Lester have come up, but so far they’re nothing more than rumors. But is trading a top offensive prospect for starting pitching a good idea in the first place?

If it’s for Shields or Lester, no. Yes, they are good pitchers and better than anyone in the Royals rotation, including Santana and Guthrie. But they’re not worth Wil Myers trade value.

Both Shields and Lester will be free agents in 2014. If Myers stays with the Royals, he’ll likely be a free agent until 2019. Then there’s money. Shields will make $9MM in 2013 and has a $12MM team option. Lester will make $11.6MM in 2013 and has a $13MM team option. Myers will make much less.

Shields pitched 227.2 innings in 33 starts, had a 3.52 ERA with a 3.84 strikeout to walk ratio. Lester pitched 205.1 innings in 33 starts, had a 4.82 ERA with a 2.44 strikeout to walk ratio. Shields is 30 and Lester is 28, but between the two, Shields appears the one most likely to improve. Both pitchers are good and would be an asset to the Royals rotation, but not for Myers.

Now if the Tampa Rays are willing to deal David Price or Jeremy Hellickson for Myers, that might be a good trade. Price is a Super Two player, which makes him arbitration eligible in 2013 and a free agent in 2016. Hellickson is arbitration eligible in 2014 and a free agent in 2017.  Price made $4.35MM in 2012 and Hellickson made $489,500 in 2012, so they’re very affordable and would be under club control for at least a few years.

But I don’t see a trade like that happening. Price was a 20 game winner, pitching 211.0 innings over 31 starts with a 2.16 ERA and a 3.47 strikeout to walk ratio. And he was the American League Cy Young Award winner for 2012. Hellickson was no slouch, pitching 177.0 innings over 31 starts with a 3.10 ERA and a 2.10 strikeout to walk ratio. He was the American League Rookie of the Year in 2011.

Of the two, the Rays might trade Hellickson for Myers straight up, but to get Price the Royals would probably have to throw in another high level prospect like a Jake Odorizzi or Jason Adam. And the Rays aren’t rebuilding, so there’s no good reason for them to give up starting pitching for prospects.

If the Royals are so bent on trading for a starting pitcher, maybe they should consider Chicago Cubs starter Jeff Samardzija. Jeff Samardzija? To be honest, I didn’t know much about him either. But Samardzija was the ace of the Cubs, pitching 174.2 innings in 28 starts with a 3.81 ERA and a 3.21 strikeout to walk ratio. Sure, being the ace of the 61-101 Cubs isn’t that impressive. But Samardzija made $2.64MM in 2012, is arbitration eligible in 2013 and a free agent in 2016.

And the best thing is the Royals won’t have to trade Myers to get Samardzija (unless they’re very stupid, which is possible). The Royals could give the Cubs someone like Mike Montgomery or Cheslor Cuthbert for Samardzija and jettison or trade Luke Hochevar to pay Samardzija’s salary. The Royals still have money left to get a free agent pitcher like a Shaun Marcum or Anibal Sanchez. And Myers can take Jeff Francoeur‘s place in right field in 2013. Sounds like a good deal to me.

10 thoughts on “Wil the Royals trade Myers away for starting pitching?

  1. hellickson for myers straight up. as a rays fan there is no way i do that deal. giving up a pitcher who has excelled in the al east for a prospect who has done nothing at the mlb level. this deal

  2. Why would the Cubs trade Samardzija? There is no way they are trading him..their pitching is weak and he could emerge this year as the leader of that staff and has a ton of potential and isn’t a FA until 2016.

    That part of the article makes no sense.

    1. Agreed. I see no reason why the Cubs would trade Samardzija for a pitching prospect who has fallen off a cliff two years straight (and whose upside was no bette than what Samardzija did this year).

      And Hellickson for Myers? No way I do that if I’m Dayton Moore. If you give up Myers, it’s for an ace, or at least a really good #2. Not for Jeremy Hellickson.

  3. What about Myers for Matt Harrison & Nelson Cruz? Honestly I think Cruz is a little too expensive in that case, but substituting Leonys Martin might not be enough… Curious to see what you guys think.

    1. I think not. First of all, the Rangers wouldn’t do it. Second of all, it doesn’t make sense for the Royals to give up their top prospect for a more expensive OF or a pitcher who isn’t a clear #1 starter.

  4. Interesting that there is no mention of R.A. Dickey here. Rumors are that there have been talks between the Mets and Royals concerning Dickey. Sure, he’s 38, but as a knuckleballer he should have several good years ahead. And yes, he too is a free agent in 2014, but with a window to sign him to an extension the Royals could lock him up for 3 more years at considerably less than they could for either Shields or Lester. Dickey pitched more innings, to a lower ERA and WHIP than either Shields or Lester, and, while leading the NL in strikeouts, his 4.26 ratio of K/BB was far better. Don’t you think Moore would consider a swap of Myers for Dickey straight up a good deal for the Royals?

  5. The only thing you trade Myers for is an ace. When the Red Sox wanted Beckett they had to move Hanley Ramirez. The Royals can not trade for an actual ace though because 2 years of arb and that ace is sucking up too much payroll room. Matt Moore would do it only because of his contract, but I imagine the price is too high, on top of Myers, to pry that gem.

    I like the RA Dickey idea, but I wouldn’t give much for him and wouldn’t worry if I couldn’t get a deal done to extend him. I can’t see why the Mets would deal him cheap and his best place overall is probably in a Mets uni.

  6. There is NO WAY anyone gets David Price for a couple of high-end prospects, no matter how they project. Price is a sure thing front line Cy Young award winning starter. And a relatively young one with lots of contract time. Players like Price and Felix Hernandez of the Mariners are so valuable, they would require both front line hitters AND top prospects, with some high end pitching prospects in the mix.

    Nobody is Babe Ruth until they hit 60 homers in the majors.

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